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Hi Dr Sher,
I had a failed egg retrieval- my follicles were “empty”. I primed with androderm patch then Lupron & micrdose hcg, stimmed with 400 iu gonal f. I had 2 follicles over 18mm before I took the trigger shot and also took an additional 300 iu gonal f as well.
I’m 39, AMH .005, fsh 20 afc 6 and had a Fallopian tube removed and 5 failed iuis
Is there a protocol better suited for my situation in your opinion or should I go straight to donor eggs?
There is in my opinion no such entity as “Empty Follicle Syndrome”. All follicles contain eggs. Failure to access those eggs at ER can often be a result of the protocol used for controlled ovarian stimulation (COS.
Not infrequently, when following vigorous and often repeated flushing of follicles at egg retrieval they fail to yield eggs, it is ascribed to the “empty follicle syndrome”. This is a gross misnomer because all follicles contain eggs so it did not happen because the follicles were “empty”. Most likely it was because they would/could not yield the eggs they harbored. This situation is most commonly seen in older women, women who have severely diminished ovarian reserve and in women with polycystic ovarian syndrome and in my opinion, it often preventable when an optimal, individualized and strategic protocol for controlled ovarian stimulation (COS) is employed and the correct timing and dosage is applied to the “hCG trigger” shot.
Normally, following optimal ovarian stimulation, the hCG “trigger shot” is given for the purpose of it triggering meiosis (reproductive division) that is intended to halve the number of chromosomes from 46 to 23 within 32-36 hours. The hCG “trigger also enables the egg to signal the “cumulus cells” that bind it firmly to the inner wall of the follicle (through enzymatic activity), to loosen or disperse such that the egg can detach and readily be captured at egg retrieval (ER). Ordinarily, normal eggs (and even those with only one or two chromosomal irregularities) will readily detach and be captured with the very first attempt to empty of a follicle. Eggs that have several chromosomal numerical abnormalities (i.e., are “complex aneuploid”) are often unable to facilitate this process. This explains why when the egg is complex aneuploid its follicle will not yield an egg…and why, when it requires repeated flushing of a follicle to harvest an egg, it is highly suggestive of it being aneuploid and thus “incompetent” (i.e., incapable of subsequently propagating a normal embryo).
Older women, women with diminished ovarian reserve and those with polycystic ovarian syndrome, tend to have more biologically active LH in circulation. LH cause production of male hormone (androgens, predominantly testosterone, by ovarian connective tissue (stroma/theca). A little testosterone is needed for optimal follicle development and for FSH-induced oogenesis’ (egg development. Too much LH activity compromises the latter and eggs so affected, are far more likely to be aneuploid, following meiosis. Women with the above conditions have increased LH activity and are thus more likely to produce excessive ovarian testosterone. It follows that sustained, premature elevations in LH elevations or premature luteinization (often referred to as a “premature LH surge”) will prejudice egg development. Such compromised eggs are much more likely to end up being complex aneuploid following the administration of the “hCG trigger” leading to failed and the so called “empty follicle syndrome”
Since the developing eggs of women who have increased LH activity [older women, women with diminished ovarian reserve (DOR) and those with PCOS] are inordinately vulnerable to the effects of protracted exposure to LH-induced ovarian testosterone. Also, the administration of medications that provoke further pituitary LH release (e.g., clomiphene and Letrozole) and drugs that contain LH or hCG (e.g., Menopur; or protocols of ovarian stimulation the provoke increase exposure to the woman’s own pituitary LH (e.g., “flare-agonist protocols” and the use of “late pituitary blockade (antagonists) protocols can be prejudicial. The importance of individualizing COS protocol selection, precision with regard to the dosage and type of hCG trigger used and the timing of its administration in such cases, cannot be overstated. The ideal dosage of urinary-derived hCG (hCG-u) such as Novarel, Pregnyl and Profasi is 10,000U. When recombinant DNA-derived hCG(hCG-r) such as Ovidrel is used, the optimal dosage is 500mcg. A lower dosage of hCG can by compromising meiosis, increase the risk of egg aneuploidy and thus of IVF outcome.
I strongly recommend that you visit http://www.DrGeoffreySherIVF.com. Then go to my Blog and access the “search bar”. Type in the titles of any/all of the articles listed below, one by one. “Click” and you will immediately be taken to those you select. Please also take the time to post any questions or comments with the full expectation that I will (as always) respond promptly.
•Implications of “Empty Follicle Syndrome and “Premature Luteinization”
•Premature Luteinization (“the premature LH surge): Why it happens and how it can be prevented.
•Fertility Preservation (FP) Through Freezing/Banking Human Eggs
•The IVF Journey: The importance of “Planning the Trip” Before Taking the Ride”
•Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) for IVF: Selecting the ideal protocol
•IVF: Factors Affecting Egg/Embryo “competency” during Controlled Ovarian Stimulation(COS)
•The Fundamental Requirements For Achieving Optimal IVF Success
•Use of GnRH Antagonists (Ganirelix/Cetrotide/Orgalutron) in IVF-Ovarian Stimulation Protocols.
•Anti Mullerian Hormone (AMH) Measurement to Assess Ovarian Reserve and Design the Optimal Protocol for Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) in IVF.
•The “Biological Clock” and how it should Influence the Selection and Design of Ovarian Stimulation Protocols for IVF.
• A Rational Basis for selecting Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) protocols in women with Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR)
•Diagnosing and Treating Infertility due to Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR)
•Ovarian Stimulation in Women Who have Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR): Introducing the Agonist/Antagonist Conversion protocol
•Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) in Older women and Women who have Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR): A Rational Basis for Selecting a Stimulation Protocol
•Optimizing Response to Ovarian Stimulation in Women with Compromised Ovarian Response to Ovarian Stimulation: A Personal Approach.
•Egg Maturation in IVF: How Egg “Immaturity”, “Post-maturity” and “Dysmaturity” Influence IVF Outcome:
•Commonly Asked Question in IVF: “Why Did so Few of my Eggs Fertilize and, so Many Fail to Reach Blastocyst?”
•Human Growth Hormone Administration in IVF: Does it Enhances Egg/Embryo Quality and Outcome?
•The BCP: Does Launching a Cycle of Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS). Coming off the BCP Compromise Response?
•Staggered IVF with PGS- Selection of “Competent” Embryos Greatly Enhances the Utility & Efficiency of IVF.
•Staggered IVF: An Excellent Option When. Advancing Age and Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR) Reduces IVF Success Rate
•Embryo Banking/Stockpiling: Slows the “Biological Clock” and offers a Selective Alternative to IVF-Egg Donation
•Preimplantation Genetic Testing (PGS) in IVF: It should be Used Selectively and NOT be Routine.
•IVF: Selecting the Best Quality Embryos to Transfer
•Preimplantation Genetic Sampling (PGS) Using: Next Generation Gene Sequencing (NGS): Method of Choice.
•PGS in IVF: Are Some Chromosomally abnormal Embryos Capable of Resulting in Normal Babies and Being Wrongly Discarded?
•PGS and Assessment of Egg/Embryo “competency”: How Method, Timing and Methodology Could Affect Reliability
•IVF outcome: How Does Advancing Age and Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR) Affect Egg/Embryo “Competency” and How Should the Problem be addressed.
•IVF: The first Choice for Infertile Women 40 to 43 Years of Age!
•IVF Egg Donation: A Comprehensive Overview
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ADDENDUM: PLEASE READ!!
INTRODUCING SHER FERTILITY SOLUTIONS (SFS)
Hitherto I have personally performed IVF- treatment and related procedures on patients who, elected to travel to Las Vegas to be managed by me. However, with the launching of Sher-Fertility Solutions (SFS) in April 2019, I have taken on a new and expanded role. Now, rather than having hands-on involvement I confine my services to providing hour-long online Skype consultations to an ever-growing number of patients (emanating from >40 countries), with complex Reproductive problems, who seek access to my input, advice and guidance. All Skype consultations are followed by a detailed written report that meticulously describes and explains my recommendations for treatment. All patients are encouraged to share this report with their personal treating doctor(s), with whom [subject to consent and a request from their doctor] I will, gladly discuss their case with the “treating Physician”.
Through SFS I am now able to conveniently provide those who because of geography, convenience and cost, prefer to be treated at home or elsewhere by their chosen Infertility Physician.
“I wish to emphasize to all patients with whom I consult, that in the final analyses, when it comes to management, strategy, protocol and implementation of treatment, my advice and recommendations are always superseded by that of the hands-on treating Physician”.
Anyone wishing to schedule a Skype consultation with me, can do so by: Calling my concierge (Patti Converse) at 1-800-780-7437 (in the U.S.A or Canada) or 702-533-2691, for an appointment. Patients can also enroll online on my website, http://www.SherIVF.com, or email Patti at concierge@SherIVF.com .
I was very recently greatly honored in receiving an award by the prestigious; International Association of Top Professionals (IAOTP). For more information, go to the press release on my website, http://www.sherIVF.com .
PLEASE HELP SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT SFS!
Geoff Sher
Doctor my sister take ivf treatement and today is 15th day of embryo transplantation. Her bhcg is 9.. is there is any hope for pregnancy doctor.. what we can do??kindly Please replay doctor.. we can not understand that the doctor explains..pls help doctor?
Dr. Scher –
I am 40 years old and just had my third failed IVF transfer in the span of 8 months. All embryos have been day-5 euploid and tested for any genetic issues. The first transfer resulted in a blighted ovum, the second was a chemical pregnancy and the third did not work at all. My eggs are of good quality and i have no issues in my uterus.
Following the second failed transfer, in preparation for the third, I was tested for immune issues, so entered the 3rd transfer on a strict protocol including Parlodel, a scratch test, prednisone, interlipids, lovenox and IVIG in addition to the estrogen and progesterone protocol from previous transfers. Additionally, I was put on a prescription prenatal, Metanx, a probiotic, CoQ10, magnesium, Citracal, Claritin and asprin.
I had gone into the third with this immune protocol thinking that it may have addressed what wasn’t working – but despite the detailed immune protocol, there was no success. Curious if HCG/GnRh at transfer or Tacrolimus or Neupogen would be an option or do we try again using this previous protocol that proved unsuccessful?
Hi Dr Sher,
I am a 44 year old with POF since I was 18 years old. I have been on continuous oral BCP’s since that time. My husband and I decided to use a donor egg and his sperm resulting in one normal PGS tested frozen embryo. No history of uterine surgeries or STD’s. Normal hysteroscopy and Pap’s. Since September I have used a combo of oral, vaginal and injectable forms of estrogen and my lining continues to be thin. I’m also on high dose Vit E, Pentoxifylline and tamoxifen and would like your opinion on trying compound vaginal Viagra. Am I a candidate ? What protocol would you recommend?
That depends on a) what the thickness of your endometrium was on peak estrogen stimulation and b) if the lining was <8mm, what the cause is.
We should talk online.
Geoff Sher (702-533-2691.
Sir today is day9 of my donor cycle ivf with 4 day 5blastocysts kept in my womb…my b hcg on day 9 is 393.7…is this normal value or ectopic or twins..iam worried
Repeat the test in 2 days and if it trebles, it could be a multiple. However, you will have to wait for an US at 7 weeks to confirm.
Good luck!
Geoff Sher
Hi Dr Sher,
I’ve just had my 5th failed embryo transfer (3 fresh, 2 frozen). My husband and I are 31 years old. The embryos were not PGS tested but were goodlooking embryos that grew to hatching or expanded blastocyst stage for a 5 day transfer. We have both undergone extensive testing – all leading to a diagnosis of unexplained infertility. I have had a laproscopy, hysterscopy, ERA test, HSG, blood tests for thyroid/blood clotting disorders, genetic testing etc which is all normal. My husband has had all the relevant sperm tests including DNA fragmentation test – all normal results and genetic testing (normal).
The only thing “not ideal” with my health is an autoimmune disorder (Rheumatoid arthritis). Its under control without medication (inflammatory markers are in normal range). I also have had a recent flareup of ecezma (which I haven’t had since childhood).
I have done the blood NK cell test (not uterine) which came back as borderline according to my doctor:
Lymphocytes = 3.8 x 10^9/L (normal range is between 1.5 to 4)
% Total NK cells (CD3 – 56+) = 11.4% of lymphocytes (normal range is <12)
Activated (CD69+) CD56 'Dim' NKs = 23.4 x 10^6/L (normal range is < 12)
I have not tried an immune protocol yet with my transfers. I did try clexane on my recent failed frozen transfer (even though I have no diagnosed blood clotting condition) but unfortunately that was not successful.
I am hoping to reach out for advice on what to do next or any other tests which might be useful. Thank you.
Greetings! I am 44 yrs old and I had my 1st IVF cycle recently and it failed. We where able to retrieve 5 eggs and fertilized but on 3rd day it didn’t progress anymore. According to my doctor it could be my genes and age as factors. He said even if we tried a 2nd ivf the result could either be the same or it can be abnormal egg. i have a low ovarian reserve, i had previous iui pregnancy but miscarried due o trisomy 21. My doctor suggested donor egg but i really want to be my own egg and i just want to get another opinion professionally before going back to see a different center. I hope you can enlighten me. Thank you very much.
I agree with your RE. Egg donation is by far your best choice. However, if you want to go for the long shot busing own eggs, please consider the following:
The older a woman becomes, the more likely it is that her eggs will be chromosomally/genetically “incompetent” (not have the potential upon being fertilized and transferred, to result in a viable pregnancy). That is why, the likelihood of failure to conceive, miscarrying and of giving birth to a chromosomally defective child (e.g. with Down Syndrome) increases with the woman’s advancing age. In addition, as women age beyond 35Y there is commonly a progressive diminution in the number of eggs left in the ovaries, i.e. diminished ovarian reserve (DOR). So it is that older women as well as those who (regardless of age) have DOR have a reduced potential for IVF success. Much of this is due to the fact that such women tend to have increased production of LH biological activity which can result in excessive LH-induced ovarian male hormone (predominantly testosterone) production which in turn can have a deleterious effect on egg/embryo “competency”.
While it is presently not possible by any means, to reverse the age-related effect on the woman’s “biological clock, certain ovarian stimulation regimes, by promoting excessive LH production (e.g. short agonist/Lupron- “flare” protocols, clomiphene and Letrozole), can make matters worse. Similarly, the amount/dosage of certain fertility drugs that contain LH/hCG (e.g. Menopur) can have a negative effect on the development of the eggs of older women and those who have DOR and should be limited.
I try to avoid using such protocols/regimes (especially) in older women and those with DOR, favoring instead the use of the agonist/antagonist conversion protocol (A/ACP), a modified, long pituitary down-regulation regime, augmented by adding supplementary human growth hormone (HGH). I further recommend that such women be offered access to embryo banking of PGS (next generation gene sequencing/NGS)-selected normal blastocysts, the subsequent selective transfer of which by allowing them to to capitalize on whatever residual ovarian reserve and egg quality might still exist and thereby “make hay while the sun still shines” could significantly enhance the opportunity to achieve a viable pregnancy
Please visit my new Blog on this very site, http://www.DrGeoffreySherIVF.com, find the “search bar” and type in the titles of any/all of the articles listed below, one by one. “Click” and you will immediately be taken to those you select. Please also take the time to post any questions or comments with the full expectation that I will (as always) respond promptly
•Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) for IVF: Selecting the ideal protocol
•IVF: Factors Affecting Egg/Embryo “competency” during Controlled Ovarian Stimulation(COS)
•The Fundamental Requirements For Achieving Optimal IVF Success
•Ovarian Stimulation for IVF using GnRH Antagonists: Comparing the Agonist/Antagonist Conversion Protocol.(A/ACP) With the “Conventional” Antagonist Approach
•Anti Mullerian Hormone (AMH) Measurement to Assess Ovarian Reserve and Design the Optimal Protocol for Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) in IVF.
•The “Biological Clock” and how it should Influence the Selection and Design of Ovarian Stimulation Protocols for IVF.
• A Rational Basis for selecting Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) protocols in women with Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR)
•Diagnosing and Treating Infertility due to Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR)
•Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) in Older women and Women who have Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR): A Rational Basis for Selecting a Stimulation Protocol
•Human Growth Hormone Administration in IVF: Does it Enhances Egg/Embryo Quality and Outcome?
•The BCP: Does Launching a Cycle of Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS). Coming off the BCP Compromise Response?
•Blastocyst Embryo Transfers Should be the Standard of Care in IVF
•Frozen Embryo Transfer (FET) versus “Fresh” ET: How to Make the Decision
•Frozen Embryo Transfer (FET): A Rational Approach to Hormonal Preparation and How new Methodology is Impacting IVF.
•Staggered IVF: An Excellent Option When. Advancing Age and Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR) Reduces IVF Success Rate
•Embryo Banking/Stockpiling: Slows the “Biological Clock” and offers a Selective Alternative to IVF-Egg Donation.
•Preimplantation Genetic Testing (PGS) in IVF: It Should be Used Selectively and NOT be Routine.
•Preimplantation Genetic Sampling (PGS) Using: Next Generation Gene Sequencing (NGS): Method of Choice.
•PGS in IVF: Are Some Chromosomally Abnormal Embryos Capable of Resulting in Normal Babies and Being Wrongly Discarded?
•PGS and Assessment of Egg/Embryo “competency”: How Method, Timing and Methodology Could Affect Reliability
•Treating Out-of-State and Out-of-Country Patients at Sher-IVF in Las Vegas:
•Traveling for IVF from Out of State/Country–
•A personalized, stepwise approach to IVF
•How Many Embryos should be transferred: A Critical Decision in IVF.
•The Role of Nutritional Supplements in Preparing for IVF
•Premature Luteinization (“the premature LH surge): Why it happens and how it can be prevented.
•IVF Egg Donation: A Comprehensive Overview
___________________________________________________________
ADDENDUM: PLEASE READ!!
INTRODUCING SHER FERTILITY SOLUTIONS (SFS)
Hitherto I have personally performed IVF- treatment and related procedures on patients who, elected to travel to Las Vegas to be managed by me. However, with the launching of Sher-Fertility Solutions (SFS) in April 2019, I have taken on a new and expanded role. Now, rather than having hands-on involvement I confine my services to providing hour-long online Skype consultations to an ever-growing number of patients (emanating from >40 countries), with complex Reproductive problems, who seek access to my input, advice and guidance. All Skype consultations are followed by a detailed written report that meticulously describes and explains my recommendations for treatment. All patients are encouraged to share this report with their personal treating doctor(s), with whom [subject to consent and a request from their doctor] I will, gladly discuss their case with the “treating Physician”.
Through SFS I am now able to conveniently provide those who because of geography, convenience and cost, prefer to be treated at home or elsewhere by their chosen Infertility Physician.
“I wish to emphasize to all patients with whom I consult, that in the final analyses, when it comes to management, strategy, protocol and implementation of treatment, my advice and recommendations are always superseded by that of the hands-on treating Physician”.
Anyone wishing to schedule a Skype consultation with me, can do so by: Calling my concierge (Patti Converse) at 1-800-780-7437 (in the U.S.A or Canada) or 702-533-2691, for an appointment. Patients can also enroll online on my website, http://www.SherIVF.com, or email Patti at concierge@SherIVF.com .
I was very recently greatly honored in receiving an award by the prestigious; International Association of Top Professionals (IAOTP). For more information, go to the press release on my website, http://www.sherIVF.com .
PLEASE HELP SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT SFS!
Geoff Sher