Ask Our Doctors – Archive
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What are main reasons why chemical pregnancies happen? We had a PGS normal 4CC blastocyst and got our first positive beta 18. 2nd beta today dropped to 11.
ERA test also done before any transfers. I read most miscarriages (chemical included) occur due to chromosomal abnormalities. Isn’t that what PGS testing is for? What else can it be?
Chromosomal numerical configuration picked up by reliable PGS is the most important factor…but not tghe only one. Metabolic and genetic abnormalities that are not detectable through PGS also can doom an embryo. Then there is the possibility that the embryo was normal but there was an anatomical and immunologic implantation dysfunction that doomed the pregnancy.
Geoff Sher
Dear Dr. Sher,
I had my first ICSI at the age of 39 in January 2019.
Protocol: 9 d Puregon 200 IU, 4 d Orgalutran, Ovitrelle to initiate ovulation
Result: 18 eggs, 12 mature, 9 fertilized, transfer of 2 blastocysts (one A quality, one B), one D quality not used, pregnant with good HCG level at the beginning but no correct increase/doubling, stop of pregnancy at week 7
2nd ICSI at the age of 40 in November 2019 (different physician and lab)
Protocol: 10 d Menopur 225 IU, 5 d Orgalutran, Ovitrelle
Result: 12 eggs, 8 mature, only 1 fertilized, D quality morula at d 5, no transfer
Please could you help with the following questions :
– Do you think that the 10 month between January to November had such a strong negative impact on egg cell quality?
– Which protocol would you recommend for another try? Should we use Puregon?
– Do you think Menopur had a negative impact?
– How long should we wait with another try? Is it important to wait 3 months to get a new set of anthral follicels?
– Is there anything else we can do? I have started to supplement with 400 mg Q10 and 25 mg DHEA but I’m not sure if DHEA is beneficial.
Thank you so much for your advice
PGS testing -done , ERA – yes done 4 ERA cycles to get perfect timing , Hysteroscopy and scratch done to make uterus nice and clear for embryo, perfect lining every time , never missed a period , period like clock work every 28 days , no health issues , thyroid , diabetes , all tests you name it done , ‘golden standard ‘ long protocol with Lupron used – STILL Failed. For transfer used PIO, baby aspirin and estrace. We both are in perfect health. Only issue is our age. I am 38 and he is 39. We got pregnant naturally first month when I was 29. When we were ready for second kid , we are ‘old’. If we had any clue that age is such a determining factor , we would have gone for second child earlier. Now after 7 IVF cycles , 4 ERA cycles , only one PGS normal embryo that failed , we are at square 1 . What else we are missing?
Whenever a patient fails to achieve a viable pregnancy following embryo transfer (ET), the first question asked is why! Was it simply due to, bad luck?, How likely is the failure to recur in future attempts and what can be done differently, to avoid it happening next time?.
It is an indisputable fact that any IVF procedure is at least as likely to fail as it is to succeed. Thus when it comes to outcome, luck is an undeniable factor. Notwithstanding, it is incumbent upon the treating physician to carefully consider and address the causes of IVF failure before proceeding to another attempt:
1.Age: The chance of a woman under 35Y of age having a baby per embryo transfer is about 35-40%. From there it declines progressively to under 5% by the time she reaches her mid-forties. This is largely due to declining chromosomal integrity of the eggs with advancing age…”a wear and tear effect” on eggs that are in the ovaries from birth.
2.Embryo Quality/”competency (capable of propagating a viable pregnancy)”. As stated, the woman’s age plays a big role in determining egg/embryo quality/”competency”. This having been said, aside from age the protocol used for controlled ovarian stimulation (COS) is the next most important factor. It is especially important when it comes to older women, and women with diminished ovarian reserve (DOR) where it becomes essential to be aggressive, and to customize and individualize the ovarian stimulation protocol.
We used to believe that the uterine environment is more beneficial to embryo development than is the incubator/petri dish and that accordingly, the earlier on in development that embryos are transferred to the uterus, the better. To achieve this goal, we used to select embryos for transfer based upon their day two or microscopic appearance (“grade”). But we have since learned that the further an embryo has advanced in its development, the more likely it is to be “competent” and that embryos failing to reach the expanded blastocyst stage within 5-6 days of being fertilized are almost invariably “incompetent” and are unworthy of being transferred. Moreover, the introduction into clinical practice about 15y ago, (by Levent Keskintepe PhD and myself) of Preimplantation Genetic Sampling (PGS), which assesses for the presence of all the embryos chromosomes (complete chromosomal karyotyping), provides another tool by which to select the most “competent” embryos for transfer. This methodology has selective benefit when it comes to older women, women with DOR, cases of unexplained repeated IVF failure and women who experience recurrent pregnancy loss (RPL).
3.The number of the embryos transferred: Most patients believe that the more embryos transferred the greater the chance of success. To some extent this might be true, but if the problem lies with the use of a suboptimal COS protocol, transferring more embryos at a time won’t improve the chance of success. Nor will the transfer of a greater number of embryos solve an underlying embryo implantation dysfunction (anatomical molecular or immunologic).Moreover, the transfer of multiple embryos, should they implant, can and all too often does result in triplets or greater (high order multiples) which increases the incidence of maternal pregnancy-induced complications and of premature delivery with its serious risks to the newborn. It is for this reason that I rarely recommend the transfer of more than 2 embryos at a time and am moving in the direction of advising single embryo transfers …especially when it comes to transferring embryos derived through the fertilization of eggs from young women.
4.Implantation Dysfunction (ID): Implantation dysfunction is a very common (often overlooked) cause of “unexplained” IVF failure. This is especially the case in young ovulating women who have normal ovarian reserve and have fertile partners. Failure to identify, typify, and address such issues is, in my opinion, an unfortunate and relatively common cause of repeated IVF failure in such women. Common sense dictates that if ultrasound guided embryo transfer is performed competently and yet repeated IVF attempts fail to propagate a viable pregnancy, implantation dysfunction must be seriously considered. Yet ID is probably the most overlooked factor. The most common causes of implantation dysfunction are:
a.A“ thin uterine lining”
b.A uterus with surface lesions in the cavity (polyps, fibroids, scar tissue)
c.Immunologic implantation dysfunction (IID)
d.Endocrine/molecular endometrial receptivity issues
e.Ureaplasma Urealyticum (UU) Infection of cervical mucous and the endometrial lining of the uterus, can sometimes present as unexplained early pregnancy loss or unexplained failure following intrauterine insemination or IVF. The infection can also occur in the man, (prostatitis) and thus can go back and forth between partners, with sexual intercourse. This is the reason why both partners must be tested and if positive, should be treated contemporaneously.
Certain causes of infertility are repetitive and thus cannot readily be reversed. Examples include advanced age of the woman; severe male infertility; immunologic infertility associated with alloimmune implantation dysfunction (especially if it is a “complete DQ alpha genetic match between partners plus uterine natural killer cell activation (NKa).
I strongly recommend that you visit http://www.DrGeoffreySherIVF.com. Then go to my Blog and access the “search bar”. Type in the titles of any/all of the articles listed below, one by one. “Click” and you will immediately be taken to those you select. Please also take the time to post any questions or comments with the full expectation that I will (as always) respond promptly.
•The IVF Journey: The importance of “Planning the Trip” Before Taking the Ride”
•Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) for IVF: Selecting the ideal protocol
•IVF: Factors Affecting Egg/Embryo “competency” during Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS)
•The Fundamental Requirements for Achieving Optimal IVF Success
•Use of GnRH Antagonists (Ganirelix/Cetrotide/Orgalutron) in IVF-Ovarian Stimulation Protocols.
•Ovarian Stimulation in Women Who have Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR): Introducing the Agonist/Antagonist Conversion protocol
•Anti Mullerian Hormone (AMH) Measurement to Assess Ovarian Reserve and Design the Optimal Protocol for Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) in IVF.
•Human Growth Hormone Administration in IVF: Does it Enhances Egg/Embryo Quality and Outcome?
•The BCP: Does Launching a Cycle of Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS). Coming off the BCP Compromise Response?
•Blastocyst Embryo Transfers should be the Standard of Care in IVF
•IVF: How Many Attempts should be considered before Stopping?
•“Unexplained” Infertility: Often a matter of the Diagnosis Being Overlooked!
•IVF Failure and Implantation Dysfunction:
•The Role of Immunologic Implantation Dysfunction (IID) & Infertility (IID): PART 1-Background
•Immunologic Implantation Dysfunction (IID) & Infertility (IID): PART 2- Making a Diagnosis
•Immunologic Dysfunction (IID) & Infertility (IID): PART 3-Treatment
•Thyroid autoantibodies and Immunologic Implantation Dysfunction (IID)
•Immunologic Implantation Dysfunction: Importance of Meticulous Evaluation and Strategic Management 🙁 Case Report)
•Intralipid and IVIG therapy: Understanding the Basis for its use in the Treatment of Immunologic Implantation Dysfunction (IID)
•Intralipid (IL) Administration in IVF: It’s Composition; how it Works; Administration; Side-effects; Reactions and Precautions
•Natural Killer Cell Activation (NKa) and Immunologic Implantation Dysfunction in IVF: The Controversy!
•Endometrial Thickness, Uterine Pathology and Immunologic Factors
•Vaginally Administered Viagra is Often a Highly Effective Treatment to Help Thicken a Thin Uterine Lining
•Treating Out-of-State and Out-of-Country Patients at Sher-IVF in Las Vegas:
•A personalized, stepwise approach to IVF
•How Many Embryos should be transferred: A Critical Decision in IVF?
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Hitherto I have personally performed IVF- treatment and related procedures on patients who, elected to travel to Las Vegas to be managed by me. However, with the launching of Sher-Fertility Solutions (SFS) in April 2019, I have taken on a new and expanded role. Now, rather than having hands-on involvement I confine my services to providing hour-long online Skype consultations to an ever-growing number of patients (emanating from >40 countries), with complex Reproductive problems, who seek access to my input, advice and guidance. All Skype consultations are followed by a detailed written report that meticulously describes and explains my recommendations for treatment. All patients are encouraged to share this report with their personal treating doctor(s), with whom [subject to consent and a request from their doctor] I will, gladly discuss their case with the “treating Physician”.
Through SFS I am now able to conveniently provide those who because of geography, convenience and cost, prefer to be treated at home or elsewhere by their chosen Infertility Physician.
“I wish to emphasize to all patients with whom I consult, that in the final analyses, when it comes to management, strategy, protocol and implementation of treatment, my advice and recommendations are always superseded by that of the hands-on treating Physician”.
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Geoff Sher
Hi Dr Sher. I’m based in the UK and have just had my first egg collection, 10 eggs collected and I’ve just found out that 8 fertilised by ICSI, I’m very pleased with this outcome and looking forward to transfer on Day 5.
I had some light bleeding at egg collection and very light spotting since then, and I had heard that some clinics/consultants recommend taking low dose/baby aspirin if this happens, the thinking being that the bleeding could create issues with implantation. Is this something you would recommend? And how long should I take the baby aspirin for? I’m not currently taking any form of blood thinner and am 30 years old. The reason for our ICSI cycle is a genetic issue with my partners sperm so we used donor, incase this is helpful info.
Many thanks for all the info here!
K
I absolutely do not prescribe in-cycle aspirin. Also, I do not believe the slight bleeding is consequential!
Good luck!
Geoff Sher
My wife has 5 days FET done on 29th November.
First HCG on 6 Dec – 13.8 (Given 2000 IU Human chorionic gonadotropin on that day)
Second HCG on 9 Dec – 300
Third HCG on 11 Dec – 298
Forth HCG on 13 Dec – 230
Is there still any hope?
I am afraid, this does not look very promising!
Sorry!
Geoff Sher