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Dear Dr. Sher,
I am 43 and had Donor Embryo trransfer of two 3aa blastocysts on 31/08/16 and took subcutaneous pregnyl 1500 shot on 2/09/16 at 7pm, again 1500 on 04/09/16 at 7pm and lastly 1500 at 7pm on 06/09/16. when will the pregnyl be out of my system to take a hpt? The clinic says to test tomorrow 11/09/16..12 days post transfer and 6 days post booster, is this not too early? I don’t want to test too early and be disappointed with a false positive, please advise me.
Best regards,
G
In my opinion it is about 4 days too early!
Geoff Sher
Hello Doctor Sher,
I have asked you questions before & value your expert evaluation vey much. I would like your opinion on my history of bloodwork, ovarian stimulation and results:
(Regular natural cycle 28 – 30 days, ovulation day 14-17 of cycle consistently)
2014 – Age 35:
AMH test done twice over that year – 4.0pmol/L then 4.8pmol/L
Day 3 FSH – 6.1IU/L
Hysterosalpingo/Sonohysterogram on day 11 of cycle of uterus/tubes/ovaries – all clear. 15 follicles in total on both ovaries.
Ovarian stimulation – Conventional Antagonist protocol (your description) using Puregon from day 3 of cycle for a total of 10 days. Orgalutron starting from cycle day 8 for a total of 6 days. Trigger on cycle day 12 using 10,000U Pregnyl. Egg collection cycle day 14. Total 16 mature eggs collected and frozen. Not PGD tested as not available.
2015 – Age 36:
AMH: 4.5pmol/L
Hysterosalpingo/Sonohysterogram on cycle day 11 all clear, 14 follicles total on both ovaries
Natural pregnancy 1 – elective termination at 7 weeks. (Regrettable personal crisis circumstances.)
Natural pregnancy 2 – Miscarriage at 7 weeks.
2016 – Age 37:
AMH – 2.5pmol/L
FSH tested 3 times over 6 months all at cycle day 3: Feb – 5.4IU/L (no oestradiol tested) April – 7.0IU/L, oestradiol 139pmol/L, June – 5.4IU/L, oestrodiol 116pmol/L
Hysterosalpingo/Sonohysterogram day 11 of cycle all clear, 13 follicles total on both ovaries
Ovarian stimulation June – Conventional Antagonist protocol using Menopur from cycle day 3 for 10 days, Orgalutron starting from cycle day 8 for a total of 6 days. Trigger on cycle day 12 of 10,000U Pregnyl and Syneral nasal spray. Egg collection on cycle day 14. Total 6 mature eggs. 4 fertilised using ICSI. 1 day 5 blastocyst frozen not transferred. Not PGD tested as not available.
Ovarian stimulation August – Conventional Antagonist protocol back to Puregon this cycle from day 3 for 10 days. Orgalutron from day 8 for 6 days. Trigger 5000U Pregynl on day 12. Egg collection on day 14. Total 10 mature eggs collected and frozen. Not PGD tested as not available.
What is your opinion of my results of my FSH and AMH, and the results of stimulation and resulting egg numbers. I am told my FSH and AMH contradict, as well as my AMH, follicle count and egg numbers collected also contradict. At least 2 separate Fertility Specialists have expressed their inability to explain this. The AMH testing done with 2 different labs. Your thoughts?
I agree! Your AMH level suggests severely diminished ovarian reserve (DOR) while in most cases your basal FSH and response does not reflect this degree of severity. I still think that this is largely a protocol of stimulation issue.
Women as well as those who (regardless of age) have DOR have a reduced potential for IVF success. Much of this is due to the fact that such women tend to have increased production of LH biological activity which can result in excessive LH-induced ovarian male hormone (predominantly testosterone) production which in turn can have a deleterious effect on egg/embryo “competency”.
While it is presently not possible by any means, to reverse the age-related effect on the woman’s “biological clock, certain ovarian stimulation regimes, by promoting excessive LH production (e.g. short agonist/Lupron- “flare” protocols, clomiphene and Letrozole), can make matters worse. Similarly, the amount/dosage of certain fertility drugs that contain LH/hCG (e.g. Menopur) can have a negative effect on the development of the eggs of older women and those who have DOR and should be limited.
I try to avoid using such protocols/regimes (especially) in older women and those with DOR, favoring instead the use of the agonist/antagonist conversion protocol (A/ACP), a modified, long pituitary down-regulation regime, augmented by adding supplementary human growth hormone (HGH). I further recommend that such women be offered access to embryo banking of PGS (next generation gene sequencing/NGS)-selected normal blastocysts, the subsequent selective transfer of which by allowing them to to capitalize on whatever residual ovarian reserve and egg quality might still exist and thereby “make hay while the sun still shines” could significantly enhance the opportunity to achieve a viable pregnancy
Women as well as those who (regardless of age) have DOR have a reduced potential for IVF success. Much of this is due to the fact that such women tend to have increased production of LH biological activity which can result in excessive LH-induced ovarian male hormone (predominantly testosterone) production which in turn can have a deleterious effect on egg/embryo “competency”.
While it is presently not possible by any means, to reverse the age-related effect on the woman’s “biological clock, certain ovarian stimulation regimes, by promoting excessive LH production (e.g. short agonist/Lupron- “flare” protocols, clomiphene and Letrozole), can make matters worse. Similarly, the amount/dosage of certain fertility drugs that contain LH/hCG (e.g. Menopur) can have a negative effect on the development of the eggs of older women and those who have DOR and should be limited.
I try to avoid using such protocols/regimes (especially) in older women and those with DOR, favoring instead the use of the agonist/antagonist conversion protocol (A/ACP), a modified, long pituitary down-regulation regime, augmented by adding supplementary human growth hormone (HGH). I further recommend that such women be offered access to embryo banking of PGS (next generation gene sequencing/NGS)-selected normal blastocysts, the subsequent selective transfer of which by allowing them to to capitalize on whatever residual ovarian reserve and egg quality might still exist and thereby “make hay while the sun still shines” could significantly enhance the opportunity to achieve a viable pregnancy
I strongly recommend that you visit http://www.DrGeoffreySherIVF.com. Then go to my Blog and access the “search bar”. Type in the titles of any/all of the articles listed below, one by one. “Click” and you will immediately be taken to those you select. Please also take the time to post any questions or comments with the full expectation that I will (as always) respond promptly.
•Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) for IVF: Selecting the ideal protocol
•IVF: Factors Affecting Egg/Embryo “competency” during Controlled Ovarian Stimulation(COS)
•The Fundamental Requirements For Achieving Optimal IVF Success
•Ovarian Stimulation for IVF using GnRH Antagonists: Comparing the Agonist/Antagonist Conversion Protocol.(A/ACP) With the“Conventional” Antagonist Aproach
•Ovarian Stimulation in Women Who have Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR): Introducing the Agonist/Antagonist Conversion protocol
•Anti Mullerian Hormone (AMH) Measurement to Assess Ovarian Reserve and Design the Optimal Protocol for Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) in IVF.
•The “Biological Clock” and how it should Influence the Selection and Design of Ovarian Stimulation Protocols for IVF.
• A Rational Basis for selecting Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) protocols in women with Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR)
•Diagnosing and Treating Infertility due to Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR)
•Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) in Older women and Women who have Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR): A Rational Basis for Selecting a Stimulation Protocol
•Optimizing Response to Ovarian Stimulation in Women who Have Compromised Ovarian Response to Ovarian Stimulation in Women who Have Compromised Ovarian Reserve: A Personal Approach.
•Human Growth Hormone Administration in IVF: Does it Enhances Egg/Embryo Quality and Outcome?
•The BCP: Does Launching a Cycle of Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS). Coming off the BCP Compromise Response?
•Blastocyst Embryo Transfers Should be the Standard of Care in IVF
•Why did my IVF Fail
•IVF: How Many Tries Should be Considered before Stopping?
•Embryo Banking/Stockpiling: Slows the “Biological Clock” and offers a Selective Alternative to IVF-Egg Donation.
•Preimplantation Genetic Testing (PGS) in IVF: It Should be Used Selectively and NOT be Routine.
•Preimplantation Genetic Sampling (PGS) Using: Next Generation Gene Sequencing (NGS): Method of Choice.
•PGS in IVF: Are Some Chromosomally abnormal Embryos Capable of Resulting in Normal Babies and Being Wrongly Discarded?
•PGS and Assessment of Egg/Embryo “competency”: How Method, Timing and Methodology Could Affect Reliability
Please call or email Julie Dahan, my patient concierge. She will guide you on how to set up an in-person or Skype consultation with me. You can reach Julie at on her cell phone or via email at any time:
Julie Dahan
•Email: Julied@sherivf.com
•Phone: 702-533-2691
?800-780-7437
Geoff Sher
I also suggest that you access the 4th edition of my book ,”In Vitro Fertilization, the ART of Making Babies”. It is available as a down-load through http://www.Amazon.com or from most bookstores and public libraries.
Hi Dr Sher, what determines the grading of embryos? We currently have 5 embryos at day three that are grade 1. I was curious to know what factors affect determine the quality of an embryo. Is it age related or the quality of the egg/sperm or something else? Many thanks!
It is Age, ovarian reserve, genetics, sperm quality and the protocol used for ovarian stimulation with its implementation.
I strongly recommend that you visit http://www.DrGeoffreySherIVF.com. Then go to my Blog and access the “search bar”. Type in the titles of any/all of the articles listed below, one by one. “Click” and you will immediately be taken to those you select. Please also take the time to post any questions or comments with the full expectation that I will (as always) respond promptly.
•Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) for IVF: Selecting the ideal protocol
•IVF: Factors Affecting Egg/Embryo “competency” during Controlled Ovarian Stimulation(COS)
•The Fundamental Requirements For Achieving Optimal IVF Success
•Ovarian Stimulation for IVF using GnRH Antagonists: Comparing the Agonist/Antagonist Conversion Protocol.(A/ACP) With the“Conventional” Antagonist Aproach
•Ovarian Stimulation in Women Who have Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR): Introducing the Agonist/Antagonist Conversion protocol
•Anti Mullerian Hormone (AMH) Measurement to Assess Ovarian Reserve and Design the Optimal Protocol for Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) in IVF.
Please call or email Julie Dahan, my patient concierge. She will guide you on how to set up an in-person or Skype consultation with me. You can reach Julie at on her cell phone or via email at any time:
Julie Dahan
•Email: Julied@sherivf.com
•Phone: 702-533-2691
?800-780-7437
Geoff Sher
Hi Dr,
Recently i took a semen test from a lab. Please check and be advise if i need any medical help. My Report is following:
Physical Character:
Volume 2.50ml
Liquefaction Time 30 Minute
Reaction Alkaline
Total Count 4ml
Motility:
Active 50%
Moderate 12%
Sluggish 12%
Non-Motile 26%
Morphology:
Normal 90%
Immature 02%
Pin Head 02%
Giant Form 02%
Double Tail Nil
Double Head Nil
Acute Tapering 02%
Constricted Neck Nil
Amorphous 02%
Kind Regards,
Muhammad Shahzad
My Age is 31, and i got married 5 months back. I took this report after 1 day gap.
Hi Muhammad,
The sperm count is low and given the normal motility and morphology, I question the accuracy of the test. I suggest you abstain from ejaculation for 4 days or so and repeat the test. Also, you might wish to get a sperm chromatin structure assay (SCSA) done to further assess whether there truly is a sperm issue.
I strongly recommend that you visit http://www.DrGeoffreySherIVF.com. Then go to my Blog and access the “search bar”. Type in the titles of any/all of the articles listed below, one by one. “Click” and you will immediately be taken to those you select. Please also take the time to post any questions or comments with the full expectation that I will (as always) respond promptly.
•Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) for IVF: Selecting the ideal protocol
•IVF: Factors Affecting Egg/Embryo “competency” during Controlled Ovarian Stimulation(COS)
•The Fundamental Requirements For Achieving Optimal IVF Success
•Ovarian Stimulation for IVF using GnRH Antagonists: Comparing the Agonist/Antagonist Conversion Protocol.(A/ACP) With the“Conventional” Antagonist Aproach
•Male Factor Infertility
•Routine Fertilization by Intracytoplasmic Sperm Injection (ICSI): An Argument in FavorHormonal Treatment of Male Infertility
•Hormonal Treatment of Male Infertility
•Antisperm Antibodies, Infertility and the Role of IVF with Intracytoplasmic Sperm Injection (ICSI)
•Varicocele and Male Infertility: When and how should it be treated.
•The Sperm Chromatin Structure Assay (SCSA): A Measure of the Potential of Sperm to Help Propagate a Viable Pregnancy
Please call or email Julie Dahan, my patient concierge. She will guide you on how to set up an in-person or Skype consultation with me. You can reach Julie at on her cell phone or via email at any time:
Julie Dahan
•Email: Julied@sherivf.com
•Phone: 702-533-2691
?800-780-7437
Geoff Sher
I also suggest that you access the 4th edition of my book ,”In Vitro Fertilization, the ART of Making Babies”. It is available as a down-load through http://www.Amazon.com or from most bookstores and public libraries.
Hi Dr. Sher, your article sounds so to the target. I am 42 to 43 year old woman with low ovarian reserve and I have received a protocol Fostimol 75 x 3 (225) And menopur hmg 75×3 (225) and orgalutren (the medicine has been taken daily from 2 nd day of period till 13 th day. 14th day used 2X choriomol 10000 units. We had 5 follicles over 18mm at collection day. None were able to be collected with the indication of empty follicles even under the trial of 4 flashes each. Doctor then instructed for IUI which was not successful, what is your opinion ?
Frequently, when following vigorous and often repeated flushing of follicles at egg retrieval they fail to yield eggs, it is ascribed to “Empty Follicle Syndrome.” This is a gross misnomer, because all follicles contain eggs. So why were no eggs retrieved from the follicles? Most likely it was because they would/could not yield the eggs they harbored.
This situation is most commonly seen in older women, women who have severely diminished ovarian reserve, and in women with polycystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS). In my opinion it is often preventable when an optimal, individualized and strategic protocol for controlled ovarian stimulation (COS) is employed and the correct timing and dosage is applied to the “hCG trigger shot.”
Normally, following optimal ovarian stimulation, the hCG “trigger shot” is given for the purpose of it triggering meiosis (reproductive division) that is intended to halve the number of chromosomes from 46 to 23 within 32-36 hours. The hCG trigger also enables the egg to signal the “cumulus cells” that bind it firmly to the inner wall of the follicle (through enzymatic activity), to loosen or disperse, so that the egg can detach and readily be captured at egg retrieval (ER).
Ordinarily, normal eggs (and even those with only one or two chromosomal irregularities) will readily detach and be captured with the very first attempt to empty a follicle. Eggs that have several chromosomal numerical abnormalities (i.e., are “complex aneuploid”) are often unable to facilitate this process. This explains why when the egg is complex aneuploid, its follicle will not yield an egg…and why, when it requires repeated flushing of a follicle to harvest an egg, it is highly suggestive of it being aneuploid and thus “incompetent” (i.e., incapable of subsequently propagating a normal embryo).
Older women, women with diminished ovarian reserve, and those with polycystic ovarian syndrome, tend to have more biologically active LH in circulation. LH causes production of male hormone (androgens, predominantly testosterone), by ovarian connective tissue (stroma/theca). A little testosterone is needed for optimal follicle development and for FSH-induced ovogenesis (egg development). Too much LH activity compromises the latter, and eggs so affected are far more likely to be aneuploid following meiosis.
Women with the above conditions have increased LH activity and are thus more likely to produce excessive ovarian testosterone. It follows that sustained, premature elevations in LH or premature luteinization (often referred to as a “premature LH surge”) will prejudice egg development. Such compromised eggs are much more likely to end up being complex aneuploid following the administration of the hCG trigger, leading to fruitless attempts at retrieval and the so called “empty follicle syndrome.”
The developing eggs of women who have increased LH activity (older women, women with diminished ovarian reserve, and those with PCOS) are inordinately vulnerable to the effects of protracted exposure to LH-induced ovarian testosterone. Because of this, the administration of medications that provoke further pituitary LH release (e.g., clomiphene and Letrozole), drugs that contain LH or hCG (e.g., Menopur), or protocols of ovarian stimulation that provoke increased exposure to the woman’s own pituitary LH (e.g., “flare-agonist protocols”) and the use of “late pituitary blockade” (antagonist) protocols can be prejudicial.
The importance of individualizing COS protocol selection, precision with regard to the dosage and type of hCG trigger used, and the timing of its administration in such cases cannot be overstated. The ideal dosage of urinary-derived hCG (hCG-u) such as Novarel, Pregnyl and Profasi is 10,000U. When recombinant DNA-derived hCG (hCG-r) such as Ovidrel is used, the optimal dosage is 500mcg. A lower dosage of hCG can, by compromising meiosis, increase the risk of egg aneuploidy, and thus of IVF outcome.
There is in my opinion no such condition as “Empty Follicle Syndrome.” All follicles contain eggs. Failure to access those eggs at ER can often be a result of the protocol used for controlled ovarian stimulation.
Geoff Sher
Phone: 800-780-7437