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I am 37 (38 in Oct) with an AMH of .6. We are doing PGS testing.
My first cycle I did estrogen priming for 7 days, FSH of 3.5, and had an AFC of 7. My protocol was 300 follistim, 150 menopur, added in cetrotide, and triggered with lupron and ovidrel (hcg). I retrieved 3 eggs, all 3 fertilized, 2 were discarded on day 6 and 1 was frozen on day 6.
My second cycle, I did a natural start, FSH of 14.7, AFC of 14. My protocol was 450 follistim, 150 menopur, added in cetrotide,and triggered with lupron and ovidrel (hcg). I retrieved 6 eggs, 1 degenrated and 4 fertilized. 1 was frozen on day 6 and 3 were discarded on day 7 (2 that were 1-8 and 1 that was 1CC).
So it seems I have a high fertilization rate, however the embryos just aren’t making it to freeze. Is there anything I can do to improve my outcome? I want to bank embryos for a future pregnancy due to my low AMH before starting to transfer. My current doctor seems to think the second protocol is the right one for me.
In my opinion it likely has to do with the protocol used for ovarian stimulation in a woman with diminished ovarian reserve (DOR).
In my opinion, the protocol used for ovarian stimulation, against the backdrop of age, and ovarian reserve are the drivers of egg quality and egg quality is the most important factor affecting embryo “competency”.
Older women as well as those who (regardless of age) have diminished ovarian reserve (DOR) tend to produce fewer and less “competent” eggs, the main reason for reduced IVF success in such cases. The compromised outcome is largely due to the fact that such women tend to have increased LH biological activity which often results in excessive LH-induced ovarian testosterone production which in turn can have a deleterious effect on egg/embryo “competency”.
Certain ovarian stimulation regimes either promote excessive LH production (e.g. short agonist/Lupron- “flare” protocols, clomiphene and Letrozole), augment LH/hCG delivered through additional administration (e.g. high dosage menotropins such as Menopur), or fail to protect against body’s own/self-produced LH (e.g. late antagonist protocols where drugs such as Ganirelix/Cetrotide/Orgalutron that are first administered 6-7 days after ovarian stimulation has commenced).
I try to avoid using such protocols/regimes (especially) in older women and those with DOR, favoring instead the use of a modified, long pituitary down-regulation protocol (the agonist/antagonist conversion protocol-A/ACP) augmented by adding supplementary human growth hormone (HGH). I further recommend Staggered IVF with embryo banking of PGS (next generation gene sequencing/NGS)-normal blastocysts in such cases. This type of approach will in my opinion, optimize the chance of a viable pregnancy per embryo transfer procedure and provide an opportunity to capitalize on whatever residual ovarian reserve and egg quality still exists, allowing the chance to “make hay while the sun still shines”.
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•Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) for IVF: Selecting the ideal protocol
•IVF: Factors Affecting Egg/Embryo “competency” during Controlled Ovarian Stimulation(COS)
•The Fundamental Requirements For Achieving Optimal IVF Success
•Ovarian Stimulation for IVF using GnRH Antagonists: Comparing the Agonist/Antagonist Conversion Protocol.(A/ACP) With the“Conventional” Antagonist Aproach
•Anti Mullerian Hormone (AMH) Measurement to Assess Ovarian Reserve and Design the Optimal Protocol for Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) in IVF.
•The “Biological Clock” and how it should Influence the Selection and Design of Ovarian Stimulation Protocols for IVF.
•Diagnosing and Treating Infertility due to Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR)
•Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) in Older women and Women who have Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR): A Rational Basis for Selecting a Stimulation Protocol
•Human Growth Hormone Administration in IVF: Does it Enhances Egg/Embryo Quality and Outcome?
•The BCP: Does Launching a Cycle of Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS). Coming off the BCP Compromise Response?
•Staggered IVF: An Excellent Option When. Advancing Age and Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR) Reduces IVF Success Rate
•Embryo Banking/Stockpiling: Slows the “Biological Clock” and offers a Selective Alternative to IVF-Egg Donation.
•Preimplantation Genetic Testing (PGS) in IVF: It Should be Used Selectively and NOT be Routine.
•Preimplantation Genetic Sampling (PGS) Using: Next Generation Gene Sequencing (NGS): Method of Choice.
•PGS in IVF: Are Some Chromosomally abnormal Embryos Capable of Resulting in Normal Babies and Being Wrongly Discarded?
•PGS and Assessment of Egg/Embryo “competency”: How Method, Timing and Methodology Could Affect Reliability
•Implications of “Empty Follicle Syndrome and “Premature Luteinization”
•Premature Luteinization (“the premature LH surge): Why it happens and how it can be prevented.
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Geoffrey Sher MD
Im 30yo and recently completed my first IVF cycle. I did the estrogen priming antagonist protocol using 225 gonal/75 menopur/cetrotide and Lupron trigger. Only 3 mature eggs retrieved, all fertilized and frozen on day 3. Amh was 0.83, FSH 3.9, AFC of 9. Do you think a different protocol could have yielded better results? I had about 20 follicles ranging from 16mm-25mm at time of trigger. I had my first failed FET of 2 day 3 embryos using the immune protocol.
Dx: DOR, endometriosis, PCO (lap/hys to remove polyps, ovarian cysts and endo in Jan 2017) trying to conceive 7years, 4 failed iui’s, 7 clomid cycles
I am personally not in favor of the Lupron trigger (see below). As for the stimulation itself, I cannot comment authoritatively without much more information. Also, please read below about the effect of endometriosis on implantation.
i. Ovarian stimulation:
In order for any organism to attain an optimal state of maturation (ripening) it must first undergo full growth and development. A fruit plucked from a tree before having developed fully or a poorly developed fruit might still ripen (mature) on the shelf and might even appear as enticing as one that had previously undergone proper development, but it will lack the same quality. The same principles apply to the development and maturation of human eggs. Proper development as well as precise timing in the initiation of egg maturation with LH or hCG is no less crucial to optimal egg maturation, fertilization and ultimately to embryo quality. In fact, in cases where egg maturation is improperly timed (LH or hCG is released/given too early, i.e. prematurely or too late, i.e. post-maturely) there is an increased risk of aneuploidy (structural and numerical chromosomal abnormalities) leading to compromised reproductive performance.
The potential for a woman’s eggs to undergo orderly maturation, successful fertilization, and subsequent progression to “good quality embryos” that are “competent” (capable of producing healthy offspring), is in large part, genetically determined. However, the expression of such potential is profoundly susceptible to numerous extrinsic influences, especially to intra-ovarian hormonal changes during the pre-ovulatory phase of the cycle.
During the normal ovulation cycle, ovarian hormonal changes are orchestrated to avoid irregularities in production and interaction that could adversely influence follicle development and egg quality. As an example, while small amounts of ovarian male hormones (predominantly testosterone) are essential to enhance egg and follicle development, over-exposure to excessive amounts of the same hormones can seriously compromise egg (and subsequently, also embryo) quality. It follows that protocols for ovarian stimulation should be geared towards optimizing follicle and egg development while avoiding overexposure to ovarian male hormones. The fulfillment of these objectives requires a very strategic and individualized approach to ovarian stimulation and precise timing of the human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) “trigger.”
It is important to recognize that the pituitary gonadotropins, LH and FSH, while both playing a pivotal role in follicle development, have different primary sites of action in the ovary. The action of FSH is mainly directed at the cells that line the inside of the follicles (i.e. granulosa cells). LH, on the other hand, acts primarily on the connective tissue that surrounds the follicles (i.e. the ovarian stroma or theca) to compel the production of male hormones.. Some LH is essential because it is the androgens (mainly testosterone) that serves as th building block upon which FSH acts to promote follicle growth, estrogen production and egg development. Without some LH-induced testosterone production egg and follicle development would indeed be compromised. However, only a small amount testosterone is necessary for optimal development. Over-exposure to such androgens has a detrimental effect on granulosa cell estrogen production, follicle growth/development, egg maturation, fertilization potential and subsequent embryo chromosomal integrity (“competency” Furthermore, excessive ovarian androgens can also compromise estrogen-induced endometrial growth and development leading to a thin and unreceptive uterine lining, sometimes seen in women with PCOS who usually have excessive ovarian LH-induced testosterone production..
In conditions such as polycystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS), which is characterized by increased blood LH levels, there is also an increased ovarian androgen production. It is therefore not surprising that “poor egg/embryo quality” and inadequate endometrial development are often features of this condition. The use of LH-containing preparations such as Menopur might further aggravate this effect. Thus we strongly recommend against the exclusive use of such products, in PCOS patients, preferring FSH-dominant products such as Follistim, Puregon and Gonal F. While it would seem prudent to limit LH exposure in all cases of ovarian stimulation, this appears to be more relevant in older women, who tend to be more sensitive to LH
Preparing for Ovarian Stimulation:
Before embarking on ovarian stimulation it is essential to try and define the woman’s ovarian reserve (i.e., the number of eggs still available in her ovaries). Determination of the ovarian reserve will assist in defining the protocol of ovarian stimulation that would most safely yield the optimum number and quality of follicles/eggs in a given case. The ovarian reserve can best be assessed by determining the woman’s blood FSH and estradiol (E2) measurement on the 3rd day of a spontaneous menstrual cycle and by evaluating the manner in which she responded to a most recent cycle of treatment. Other blood tests that can also be selectively used to assist in assessing ovarian reserve are measurement of blood antimullerian hormone and inhibin B levels.
Once the ideal stimulation protocol is selected, the next step is to choose a suitable time for IVF treatment. For women who require a repeated cycle it is advisable that at least one-month be allowed to elapse (“resting cycle”) between IVF treatments, in order to allow the ovaries to fully recover from the preceding stimulation. Since estrogen or a combined BCP suppresses LH, it is both clinically beneficial as well as convenient to launch IVF cycles with the woman having been on at least 10 days of combined birth control pill (BCP) such as Desogen, Low-estrin or Marvelon.
Does the BCP suppress ovarian response to COS? One often hears the expressed opinion that the BCP suppresses response to ovarian stimulation. This is not the case, provided that the BCP is overlapped with administration of an agonist (e.g. Lupron, Buserelin, Superfact) for several days leading up to the start of menstruation and the initiation of ovarian stimulation cycle with gonadotropin drugs. If the latter precaution is not taken, and the cycle of stimulation is initiated coming directly off the BCP the response will often be blunted and subsequent egg quality could be adversely affected. The explanation for this is that in natural (unstimulated) as well as in cycles stimulated with fertility drugs, the ability of follicles to properly respond to FSH stimulation is dependent on their having developed FSH-responsive receptors . Pre-antral follicles (PAF) do not have such primed FSH receptors and thus cannot respond properly to FSH stimulation with gonadotropins. The acquisition of FSH receptor responsivity requires that the pre-antral follicles be exposed to FSH, for a number of days (5-7) during which time they attain “FSH-responsivity” and are now known as antral follicles (AF). These AF’s are now able to respond properly to stimulation with administered FSH-gonadotropins. In regular menstrual cycles, the rising FSH output from the pituitary gland insures that PAPs convert tor AF’s. The BCP (as well as prolonged administration of estrogen/progesterone) suppresses FSH. This suppression needs to be countered by artificially causing blood FSH levels to rise in order to cause PAF to AF conversion prior to COS commencing, otherwise pre-antral-to –antral follicle conversion will not take place in an orderly fashion and the follicles will not readily respond to gonadotropins (FSH) , thereby delaying follicle development by up to 7 days and compromising egg quality. GnRH agonists (e.g. Lupron, Buserelin, Superfact) , cause an immediate surge in release of FSH by the pituitary gland thus causing conversion from PAF to SAF. This is why, women who take a BCP to launch a cycle of COS need to have an overlap of the BCP with an agonist. By overlapping the BCP with an agonist for a few days prior to menstruation the early recruited follicles are able to complete their developmental drive to the AF stage and as such, be ready to respond appropriately to optimal ovarian stimulation. Using this approach, the timing of the initiation of the IVF treatment cycle can readily and safely be regulated and controlled by varying the length of time that the woman is on the BCP.
The baseline ultrasound examination: It is also important that there be no functional ovarian cysts at the time ovarian stimulation commences. To insure this, the patients can undergo an ultrasound examination at or near the onset of menses immediately prior to initiating ovarian stimulation. At the onset of bleeding a measurement of blood estradiol (E2) is done to insure that it is low enough (under 70 pg/ml) to start administering the fertility drugs. The commonest cause of an elevated blood E2 level around this time is the existence of one or more ovarian follicular cysts. These should be allowed to absorb, or be aspirated as soon as possible (I personally prefer to aspirate cysts under local anesthesia, on the spot COH.
Unlike GnRH agonists that exert their LH (and FSH) lowering effect by exhausting the pituitary gland of its over 4-7 days GnRH antagonists (such as Ganirelix, Orgalutron, Cetrotide ) do so directly and immediately (within a few hours of administration).Thus both agonists and antagonists of GnRH both serve to establish a “low LH environment” in which follicular and egg development can proceed optimally.
The Choice of Gonadotropin Products to be Prescribed:
The recent availability of DNA-recombinant FSH and LH gonadotropins has made this an easy choice. In my opinion, it is no longer necessary to prescribe urinary-derived gonadotropins where there could be significant variations in batch to batch biological potency and thus in response to stimulation. There is also (in my opinion) little advantage in using combined FSH/LH urinary-derived products where the additional LH contained in the preparation might in some cases compromise rather than enhance follicle and egg development. Accordingly, with few exceptions I personally only advocate the use of pure DNA-recombinant FSH (Follistim, Puregon and Gonal-F) and LH (Luveris) products for my IVF patients. The exception to this rule is when it comes to prescribing an hCG product. Here I advocate the use of urinary-derived hCG (Profasi, Pregnyl and Novarel) over the DNA recombinant hCG (Ovidrel). In my opinion, at the suggested dosage of administration, Ovidrel lacks the required biological potency. In order to optimize its effect the dosage would have to be doubled and this increases the cost. Besides, the urinary derived hCG products are very effective.
OVARIAN STIMULATION PROTOCOLS:
•Long GnRH Agonist Protocols: The most commonly prescribed protocol for agonist/gonadotropin administration is the so-called “long protocol”. An agonist (usually, Lupron) is given either in a natural cycle, starting a 5-7 days prior to menstruation or is overlapped with the BCP for two days whereupon the latter is stopped and the Lupron, continued until menstruation ensues. The agonist precipitates a rapid rise in FSH and LH level, which is rapidly followed by a precipitous decline in the blood level of both, to near zero. This is followed by uterine withdrawal bleeding (menstruation) within 5-7 days of starting the agonist treatment, whereupon gonadotropin treatment is initiated (preferably within 7-10 days of the onset of menses) while daily Lupron injections continue, to ensure a relatively “low LH- environment”. Gonadotropin administration continues until the hCG trigger.
•Long-agonist/antagonist conversion protocol (A/ACP): With a few (notable) exceptions I preferentially advocate this protocol for many of my patients. With the A/ACP, as with the long protocol (see above) the woman again prepares to launch her stimulation cycle by taking a BCP for at least ten days before overlapping with an agonist such as Lupron. However, when about 5-7 days later her menstruation starts, she supplants the agonist with a half dosage (125mg) of an antagonist (e.g. Ganirelix, Orgalutron or Cetrotide).Within a few days of this switch-over, gonadotropin stimulation is commenced. Both the antagonist and the gonadotropins are then continued until the hCG trigger. The purpose in switching from agonist to antagonist is to intentionally allow only a very small amount of the woman’s own pituitary LH to enter her blood and reach her ovaries, while at the same time preventing a large amount of LH from reaching her ovaries. This is because while a small amount of LH is essential to promote and optimize FSH-induced follicular growth and egg maturation, a large concentration of LH can trigger over-production of ovarian stromal testosterone, with an adverse effect of follicle/egg/embryo quality. Moreover, since testosterone also down-regulates estrogen receptors in the endometrium, an excess of testosterone can also have an adverse effect on endometrial growth. Also, since agonists might suppress some ovarian response to the gonadotropin stimulation, antagonists do not do so. It is for this reason that the A/ACP is so well suited to older women and those with some degree of diminished ovarian reserve.
•Agonist/antagonist conversion protocol with estrogen priming: Women who have a significant degree of diminished ovarian reserve are first given GnRH agonist for a number of days to effect pituitary down-regulation. Upon post-BCP/agonist-induced menstruation, the dosage of GnRH agonist is drastically lowered (or commonly is supplanted by 125mg daily of an antagonist) and the woman is given twice-weekly injections of 2-4mg of estradiol valerate (E2V) for a period of 7-10 days. Ovarian stimulation is then initiated using a relatively high dosage of an FSH-dominant gonadotropins such as Follistim, Puregon or Gonal F for a few days, whereupon the dosage is reduced and a small amount of DNA-recombinant LH (Luveris) is added daily. Both the FSH and the LH are then continued along with daily administration of GnRH agonist (or antagonist) until the “hCG trigger”. The reason for the “estrogen priming” is because it enhances follicle response to FSH and also helps optimize the uterine lining.
There is one potential drawback to the use of the A/ACP. We have learned that prolonged use of a GnRH antagonist throughout the ovarian stimulation process can compromise the predictive value of serial plasma E2 measurements to evaluate follicle growth and development. It appears that when the antagonist is given throughout stimulation, the blood E2 levels tend to be significantly lower than when the agonist alone is used or where antagonist treatment is only commenced 5-7 days into the ovarian stimulation process. The reason for this is presently unclear. Accordingly, when the A/ACP is employed, we rely more on follicle size monitoring than on serial blood E2 trends to assess progress. Also, younger women (under 30 years) and women with absent, irregular or dysfunctional ovulation, and those with polycystic ovarian syndrome are at risk of developing life-threatening Severe Ovarian Hyperstimulation Syndrome (OHSS). The prediction of this condition requires daily access to accurate blood E2 levels. Accordingly we currently tend to refrain from prescribing the A/ACP in such cases, preferring instead use the “standard long-protocol” approach.
•Short-GnRH antagonist protocols: The use of GnRH antagonists as currently prescribed in ovarian stimulation cycles (i.e. the administration of 250mcg daily starting on the 6th or 7th day of stimulation with gonadotropins) may be problematic, especially in women over 39 yrs., women with diminished ovarian reserve (i.e. “poor responders” to gonadotropins), and women with PCOS. Such women tend to have higher levels of LH to start with and as such the initiation of LH suppression with GnRH antagonists so late in the cycle (usually on day 6-7) of stimulation fails to suppress LH early enough to avoid compromising egg development. This can adversely influence egg/embryo quality and endometrial development. As is the case with the “microflare” approach (see above) the use of GnRH antagonist protocols in younger women who have normal ovarian reserve, is acceptable. Again, for reasons of caution, and because I see no benefit in doing so, I personally never prescribe this approach for my patients.
Presumably, the reason for the suggested mid-follicular initiation of high dose GnRH antagonist is to prevent the occurrence of the so called “premature LH surge”, which is known to be associated with “follicular exhaustion” and poor egg/embryo quality. However the term “premature LH surge” is a misnomer and the concept of this being a “terminal event” or an isolated insult is erroneous. In fact, the event is the culmination (end point) of the progressive escalation in LH (“a staircase effect”) which results in increasing ovarian stromal activation with commensurate growing androgen production. Trying to improve ovarian response and protect against follicular exhaustion by administering GnRH antagonists during the final few days of ovarian stimulation is like trying to prevent a shipwreck by removing the tip of an iceberg.
•Short-GnRH-agonist (“micro-flare”) protocols: Another approach to COH is by way of so-called “microflare protocols”. This involves initiating gonadotropin therapy simultaneously with the administration of GnRH agonist. The intent is to deliberately allow Lupron to affect an initial surge (“flare”) in pituitary FSH release so as to augment ovarian response to the gonadotropin medication. Unfortunately, this approach represents “a double edged sword” as the resulting increased release of FSH is likely to be accompanied by a concomitant (excessive) rise in LH levels that could evoke excessive production of male hormone by the ovarian stroma. The latter in turn could potentially compromise egg quality, especially in women over 39 years of age, women with diminished ovarian reserve, and in women with polycystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS) – all of whose ovaries have increased sensitivity to LH. In this way, “microflare protocols” can potentially hinder egg/embryo development and reduce IVF success rates. While microflare protocols usually are not harmful in younger women and those with normal ovarian reserve, I personally avoid this approach altogether for safety sake. The follicles/eggs of women on GnRH-agonist “micro-flare protocols” can be exposed to exaggerated agonist-induced LH release, (the “flare effect”) while the follicles/eggs of women, who receive GnRH antagonists starting 6-8 days following the initiation of stimulation with gonadotropins can likewise be exposed to pituitary LH-induced ovarian male hormones (especially testosterone). While this is not necessarily problematic in younger women and those with adequate ovarian reserve (“normal responders”) it could be decidedly prejudicial in “poor responders” and older women where there is increased follicle and egg vulnerability to high local male hormone levels.
•The “Trigger Shot”- A Critical Decision: The egg goes through maturational division (meiosis) during the 36 hour period that precedes ovulation or retrieval. The efficiency of this process will determine the outcome of reproduction. It follows that when it comes to ovulation induction, aside from selecting a suitable protocol for COS one of the most important decisions the clinician has to make involves choosing and implementing with logic and precision, the “trigger shot” by which to facilitate meiosis.
oUrinary versus recombinant hCG: Until quite recently, the standard method used to initiate the “trigger shot” was through the administration of 10,000 units of hCGu. More recently, a recombinant form of hCGr (Ovidrel) was introduced and marketed in 250 mcg doses. But clinical experience strongly suggests that 250 mcg of Ovidrel is most likely not equivalent in biological potency to 10,000 units of hCG. It probably at best only has 60%of the potency of a 10,000U dose of hCGu and as such might not be sufficient to fully promote meiosis, especially in cases where the woman has numerous follicles. For this reason, I firmly believe that when hCGr is selected as the “trigger shot” the dosage should be doubled to 500 mcg, at which dosage it will probably have an equivalent effect on promoting meiosis as would 10,000 units of hCGu.
oThe dosage of hCG used: Some clinicians, when faced with a risk of OHSS developing will deliberately elect to reduce the dosage of hCG administered as a trigger in the hope that by doing so, the risk of developing critical OHSS will be lowered. It is my opinion that such an approach is not optimal because a low dose of hCG (e.g., 5000 units hCGu or 25omcg hCGr) is likely inadequate to optimize the efficiency of meiosis, particularly when it comes to cases such as this where there are numerous follicles. In my opinion a far better approach is to use a method that I first described in 1989, known as “prolonged coasting”
oUse of hCG versus an agonist (e.g., Lupron) as the trigger shot: It has been suggested that the use of an “agonist ( Lupron) trigger” in women at risk of developing severe ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome (OHSS) could potentially reduce the risk of the condition becoming critical and thereby placing the woman at risk of developing life-endangering complications. It is for this reason that many RE’s prefer to trigger meiosis in this way (using an agonist-Lupron) rather than through the use of hCG. The agonist promptly causes the woman’s pituitary gland to expunge a large amount of LH over a short period of time and it is this LH “surge” that triggers meiosis. The problem with this approach, in my opinion, is that it is hard to predict how much LH will be released in by the pituitary gland of a given patient receiving an agonist trigger shot, especially if the woman was down-regulated using an agonist, or in cases where an antagonist was used to block pituitary LH release. For this reason, I personally prefer to use hCGu for the trigger, even in cases of ovarian hyperstimulation, with one important proviso…that she underwent “prolonged coasting” in order to reduce the risk of critical OHSS prior to the 10,000 unit hCGu “trigger”.
oThe timing of the trigger shot to initiate meiosis: This should coincide with the majority of ovarian follicles being >15 mm in mean diameter with several follicles having reached 18-22 mm. Follicles of larger than 22 mm will usually harbor overdeveloped eggs which in turn will usually fail to produce good quality eggs. Conversely, follicles less than 15 mm will usually harbor underdeveloped eggs that are more likely to be aneuploid and incompetent following the “trigger”.
•Severe Ovarian Hyperstimulation Syndrome (OHSS) and prolonged Coasting”
OHSS is a life-endangering condition that usually occurs in women undergoing COS where the blood E2 level rises to above 4,000pg/ml. The risk escalates to greater than 80% in cases where the E2 level rises above 6,000pg/ml. It rarely occurs in normally ovulating women or older (>39Y) women and is more commonly encountered in:
oYoung women (under 30y) who have a high ovarian reserve (based upon basal FSH and AMH.
oWomen with polycystic Ovarian Syndrome ( PCOS)
oNon-PCOS women who do not ovulate spontaneously
The treating physician should be alerted to the possibility of hyperstimulation when when encountering a woman who develops >25 ovarian follicles of 14mm-16mm in mean diameter, in association with a blood E2 level of above 2,5000pg/ml prior to the hCG “trigger”.
OHSS is a self-limiting condition. Its development is linked to the effect of hCG and thus does not occur until the “hCG trigger” is administered. In fact, there is virtually no risk of OHSS until the hCG “trigger” is administered.
“Prolonged Coasting” is a procedure I introduced in 1991. It involves abruptly stopping gonadotropin therapy while continuing to administer the GnRH agonist (e.g. Lupron, Buserelin) deferring the hCG “trigger” until the woman is out of risk (as evidenced by a fall in plasma estradiol level to below 2,500pg/ml).
It is important that “prolonged coasting” be initiated as soon as two or more follicles have attained a greater diameter than 18mm with at least 50% of the remaining follicles having attained 14-16mm. To start the process of “prolonged coasting” any earlier or any later, while it would still protect against the development of OHSS, would almost certainly result in compromised egg and embryo quality with ultimate failure of the IVF cycle. Simply stated, the precise timing of initiating the process is critical. Proper implementation of PC will almost always prevent OHSS without seriously compromising egg/embryo quality.
There is another consideration and that is the fact that some IVF physicians , when faced with the possibility that a given patient might hyperstimulate and that the condition might evolve into full blown OHSS, will either cancel the IVF cycle altogether or administer the hCG “trigger” prematurely in the hope of arresting the process in its tracks
o“Selecting the Ideal Trigger shot”
oUrinary versus recombinant hCG: Until quite recently, the standard method used to initiate the “trigger shot” was through the administration of 10,000 units of hCGu. More recently, a recombinant form of hCGr (Ovidrel) was introduced and marketed in 250 mcg doses. But clinical experience strongly suggests that 250 mcg of Ovidrel is most likely not equivalent in biological potency to 10,000 units of hCG. It probably at best only has 60%of the potency of a 10,000U dose of hCGu and as such might not be sufficient to fully promote meiosis, especially in cases where the woman has numerous follicles. For this reason, I firmly believe that when hCGr is selected as the “trigger shot” the dosage should be doubled to 500 mcg, at which dosage it will probably have an equivalent effect on promoting meiosis as would 10,000 units of hCGu.
oThe dosage of hCG used: Some clinicians, when faced with a risk of OHSS developing will deliberately elect to reduce the dosage of hCG administered as a trigger in the hope that by doing so, the risk of developing critical OHSS will be lowered. It is my opinion that such an approach is not optimal because a low dose of hCG (e.g., 5000 units hCGu or 25omcg hCGr) is likely inadequate to optimize the efficiency of meiosis, particularly when it comes to cases such as this where there are numerous follicles. In my opinion a far better approach is to use a method that I first described in 1989, known as “prolonged coasting”
oUse of hCG versus an agonist (e.g., Lupron) as the trigger shot: It has been suggested that the use of an “agonist ( Lupron) trigger” in women at risk of developing severe ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome (OHSS) could potentially reduce the risk of the condition becoming critical and thereby placing the woman at risk of developing life-endangering complications. It is for this reason that many RE’s prefer to trigger meiosis in this way (using an agonist-Lupron) rather than through the use of hCG. The agonist promptly causes the woman’s pituitary gland to expunge a large amount of LH over a short period of time and it is this LH “surge” that triggers meiosis. The problem with this approach, in my opinion, is that it is hard to predict how much LH will be released in by the pituitary gland of a given patient receiving an agonist trigger shot, especially if the woman was down-regulated using an agonist, or in cases where an antagonist was used to block pituitary LH release. For this reason, I personally prefer to use hCGu for the trigger, even in cases of ovarian hyperstimulation, with one important proviso…that she underwent “prolonged coasting” in order to reduce the risk of critical OHSS prior to the 10,000 unit hCGu “trigger”.
oThe timing of the trigger shot to initiate meiosis: This should coincide with the majority of ovarian follicles being >15 mm in mean diameter with several follicles having reached 18-22 mm. Follicles of larger than 22 mm will usually harbor overdeveloped eggs which in turn will usually fail to produce good quality eggs. Conversely, follicles less than 15 mm will usually harbor underdeveloped eggs that are more likely to be aneuploid and incompetent following the trigger.
2. “THe Trigger”
Traditionally egg retrievals are timed for about 36 hours after a 10,000U hCG “trigger”. The hCG hormone thereupon remains in the system for up to a week. When patients who overstimulate following ovarian stimulation experience prolonged exposure to hCG the risk of developing severe ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome with its incumbent life-endangering complications escalates. Attempts to mitigate this risk have included:
a)withholding the hCG trigger altogether thereby preventing luteinization of follicle granulosa cells and preventing the production of vasoactive substances (e.g. VEGF) which when overproduced escalate the risk/severity of OHSS,
b)prematurely administering the hCG trigger to arrest further follicular growth and escalation in blood estradiol levels,
c)reducing the dosage of hCG by half, to 5,000U in the hope of limiting/restricting the luteinization process and,
d) supplanting the “hCG trigger’ by an “Agonist (e.g. Lupron) trigger” that causes promotes meiotic egg maturation buy causing a surge in the release of pituitary LH.
All of the options above do indeed reduce the risk of developing OHSS. “a)” completely prevents egg maturation from occurring and thus virtually precludes the harvesting of “competent” eggs, while “b), c), and d)”all adversely affect egg “competency” to a lesser or greater degree, thereby compromising both embryo quality and IVF outcome.
Use of the “Lupron trigger” bears further mention: Since its recent introduction, this approach has really gained popularity and caught on in a big way. In truth, there can be little argument that it markedly reduces the incidence, severity and risk of complications associated with severe ovarian hyperstimulation. However use of the “Lupron trigger” often comes at the expense of egg/embryo quality as well as IVF outcome. Thus, the question arises as to whether this approach is advisable, and if not, what the best alternative to its use would be. The reason why the “Lupron trigger” is in my opinion ill-advised, is that in cases of ovarian hyperstimulation, where there are numerous follicles with eggs that need to undergo meiosis following the “trigger”, the magnitude of the LH surge, induced by a “Lupron GnRHa trigger” is often insufficient. This can result in suboptimal egg maturation (meiosis), leading to the generation of an inordinate number of immature/dysmature eggs as well as in an increase in the number of large follicles that fail to yield eggs at all (“so called “empty follicles). This is why I do not employ the “Lupron trigger” approach in my practice, preferring instead to use the long pituitary down-regulation, along with “prolonged coasting” in women who are deemed to be at risk for developing OHSS. My position is further supported by a recent publication showing that for this very reason, the use of a GnRHa-induced “trigger is not helpful.
Prolonged Coasting, my preferred choice!: My approach is consistently to have my patients who are at risk of developing OHSS, launch their ovarian stimulation, coming off a monophasic birth control pill (BCP). The last few days on the BCP is accompanied by the addition of Lupron. Thereupon the BCP is stopped and Lupron therapy is continued. After 3-7 days menstruation usually ensues, at which point the dosage of Lupron is reduced and low dosage FSHr (Follistim/Gonal-F/Puregon) -dominant ovarian stimulation is commenced. Lupron and gonadotropins are then continued together. This approach is referred to as the “Long Pituitary Down-regulation protocol” Use of the BCP is intended to lower LH and thereby reduce stromal activation (hyperthecosis) in the hope of controlling ovarian androgen (mainly testosterone) release (too much ovarian testosterone is harmful to egg development). Seventy five (75) units of LH/hCG (Luveris/Menopur) is added from the 3rd day of gonadotropin stimulation. Starting on the 7th day of ovarian stimulation with gonadotropins, I start watching daily for the # and size of follicles developing and for the rise in blood [E2]. If there are > 25 follicles, the patient becomes a candidate for “prolonged coasting” I keep stimulati
Dr. Sher,
Do you find that a day 6 PGS normal embryo has less of a chance for pregnancy/live birth than a day 5 PGS normal embryo? If so, what percentage for live birth would you attribute to each?
Thank you!
Paulina
Yes…the success rate is slightly less for day 6 blastocysts. However, there are many factors that will determine success: for example age; blastocyst quality; chromosomal integrity (PGS); cause of the infertility and , whether or not there is a concomitant implantation dysfunction.
Geoff Sher
Dr. Sher,
What is your opinion on whether a dual trigger (HCG & Lupron) results in more mature eggs than a HCG-only trigger?
I do not believe it has any benefit whatsoever!
Geoff Sher
Hi i have pcos and endometriosis. I had my endometriosis removed last year. They found it in three places and removed it. I had the mirena coil fitted. Ive recently started being in pain all the time. Is it possible for endometriosis to grow back with the mirena coil without having any periods. Thank you.
Yes Lara,…it is possible!
Geoff Sher