Ask Our Doctors – Archive
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Dr.Sher
I am in the process of doing a FET in Hawaii . WE are using donor eggs and my husbands sperm .This is my third attempt and we are down to 3 embryos and June 8th is the day of the transfer .I started my IM progesterone today .My fertility doctor has recommended Endometrin vaginally 2 hours before the transfer on the day of the transfer . In reading your protocol i see that you withold progesterone troches the morning of the transfer .So i am confused as to why my doctor has asked me to insert an Endometrin troche 2 hours before .I really respect all the research you have done and would like you to know that in this cycle i used Viagra troches and have a 9 mm lining for the first time ( it never went above a 7 in the previous attempts ).Please help me with your pre transfer and post transfer protocol . Thx so much
It does not really matter if the PIO is administred a few hours before or after the FET, as long as it is on the same day.
By the way, I start progesterone therapy about 5-6 days prior to the blastocyst FET.
Good luck!
Geoff Sher
Hi Dr. Sher. Do you think if you always create day 6 blasts that the egg quality is poor. I have had 3 failed transfers with day 6 blasts. With full medication support. Planning on moving onto donor eggs now to try that approach. Will be on intralipids and steroids also. Thanks
Day 5 blastocysts are likely to be more successful than day 6 blastocysts but they still often propagate viable pregnancies.
Geoff Sher
Dear Dr Sher,
I am 33 and husband is 35. We conceived our 4 year old within 1st month of trying. We started trying for #2 when our son turned 2. However, after a year without luck, we sought professional help.
We did every tests, they came back excellent. We both lead healthy lifestyle. We were told, it’s unexplained secondary infertility. After 3 rounds of Letrozoles and 2 rounds of Puregon IUI, we were recommended IVF.
Despite 10 days of 300 units Puregon, only 5 eggs were retrieved. On day 3, only 2 embryos survived, 7-cell and 4-cell. Only the 7-cell embryo was transferred. On day 5, the 4-cell stopped growing (at 9-cell).
But now, I don’t have anything to freeze.
I was hoping you can help explain the reason for my unexplained secondary infertility. And maybe advise what is the next step should we fail this round of IVF.
Thank you so much for your wonderful blog. Looking forward 🙂
It is one thing for a woman who has never been able to conceive (primary infertility) to come to grips with undergoing In Vitro Fertilization. It is quite another matter for someone who has successfully achieved a pregnancy in the past having to come to terms with a subsequent inability to conceive (secondary infertility). When this happens, it raises issues of guilt, a declining sense of self-worth and ultimately self-recrimination. The ramifications often impact family relationships involving partners and siblings. The truth is that secondary infertility can be just as difficult for individuals and family to deal with as primary infertility.
There are many factors that contribute to the problem of secondary infertility. These include:
Social and marital factors: In this modern day and age where at least one in two marriages ends in divorce, it is not surprising that there would be an inevitable hiatus in childbearing. This often results in a considerable delay in re-initiating family building. Since the biological clock keeps on ticking in the interim, advancing age can, and often does, have a profound affect on a woman’s ability to subsequently conceive and successfully complete a pregnancy. In my experience, this is one of the most common reasons for secondary infertility. In addition, by the time a decision is made to enter a new relationship, many men and women will have undergone a prior sterilization procedure which now needs to be addressed. To make matters worse, many such men and women first opt for surgical reversal of their occlusive surgery, only to learn in the end that the procedures were not successful, and they now need to consider in vitro fertilization (IVF) in one form or another.
Financial factors: Here, the cost of raising a child often weighs heavily, especially in this present tough economic climate. This is becoming more of an issue as women playing an ever increasing role as a primary bread winner.
Career demands: There can be little doubt that when it comes to climbing the career ladder, women are considerably disadvantaged by the fact that pregnancy and the immediate demands of child rearing take away from their ability to compete with men. As such, many women choose to delay having another child until such time as they have been able to make up for prior lost opportunity.
Medical barriers to fertility: Certain common medical conditions, while not absolutely precluding pregnancy, make it much more difficult to conceive.
Endometriosis: It is not uncommon for women with endometriosis to achieve a pregnancy, but find difficulty in doing so again at a later date. The reason for this is that while most women with endometriosis have patent fallopian tubes, the environment surrounding their tubes is compromised due to pelvic toxins that are produced by the endometriotic implants. These toxins compromise egg fertilization potential, making it more difficult for sperm in the fallopian tube to fertilize the egg upon its arrival there. As such, endometriosis is one of the commonest causes of secondary infertility.
Tubal damage due to prior pelvic inflammatory disease: In first world countries, the early and often indiscriminate use of antibiotics for the slightest symptom has led to the point where an acute attack of pelvic inflammatory disease is often masked. As such, less than 30% of American women with tubal damage have knowledge that their tubes are compromised and that they might have subsequent difficulty in conceiving. Since, in many such cases the tubal damage will not have totally blocked both tubes, some of the women so affected might experience a pregnancy but have difficulty in conceiving again later down the line.
Dysfunctional ovulation: Since ovulation as well as normal hormonal support of the early implanting embryo are both essential for a healthy pregnancy to occur, it follows that women with irregular or dysfunctional ovulation (e.g., polycystic ovarian syndrome – PCOS, persistent follicular luteal phase deficiencies or post birth control pill ovulatory problems) might sporadically conceive and thereupon find it difficult to do achieve another pregnancy later on.
Immunologic Implantation Dysfunction (IID): has become ever more apparent that immunologic factors play an important role in achieving healthy implantation. Women with endometriosis (regardless of its severity), those with a personal or family history of autoimmune diseases such as lupus erythematosus, rheumatoid arthritis and thyroid autoimmunity (TAI), and some cases where the man and the woman share certain genetic similarities (alloimmune implantation dysfunction), will have activated CTL/NK cells that can inhibit or compromise healthy implantation. This is an often overlooked cause of secondary infertility. Most such autoimmune/alloimmune cases require selective immunotherapy and IVF.
Antisperm Antibodies: Although infrequent, some cases of secondary infertility might also be caused by the woman harboring antisperm antibodies. In such cases IVF is mandated.
Previous post-pregnancy uterine infection: Retention of products of conception after the birth of a child, miscarriage, or abortion can so damage the uterine lining as to result in subsequent implantation failure. Unless specifically looked for, this will usually be unknown to the patient, who will simply present with secondary infertility. Treatment is often difficult because such patients might not respond adequately to surgical removal of intrauterine scar tissue or to hormonal or Viagra therapy
Male immunologic factors: Most men who have undergone a previous vasectomy more than 10 years earlier, will have antisperm antibodies that will interfere with fertilization. Such cases require IVF with intracytoplasmic sperm injection (ICSI). Here we offer a few words of caution to men who are considering undergoing surgical reversal of vasectomy. Always first have a test done to exclude the presence of circulating antisperm antibodies, because in such cases, even if the reversal is successfully performed, they will not be able to initiate a pregnancy without IVF/ICSI.
Whatever the cause, secondary infertility often affects older couples disproportionately, creating a sense of urgency and even desperation in achieving a viable pregnancy before time runs out. It is for this reason that IVF becomes the treatment of choice in such cases. However, even IVF becomes progressively less successful with advancing age of the woman (whose eggs are being fertilized). In such cases it is important for the couple to be realistic with regard to their expectations. Here, options that include embryo banking and egg donation should be carefully considered.
Another important point is that whenever a regularly ovulating younger woman (under 36 years of age) with patent fallopian tubes is diagnosed with secondary infertility, it is essential to consider underlying endometriosis or non-obstructive tubal disease as a possible cause. In such cases, IVF is again the treatment of choice.
I strongly recommend that you visit http://www.DrGeoffreySherIVF.com. Then go to my Blog and access the “search bar”. Type in the titles of any/all of the articles listed below, one by one. “Click” and you will immediately be taken to those you select. Please also take the time to post any questions or comments with the full expectation that I will (as always) respond promptly.
•Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) for IVF: Selecting the ideal protocol
•IVF: Factors Affecting Egg/Embryo “competency” during Controlled Ovarian Stimulation(COS)
•The Fundamental Requirements For Achieving Optimal IVF Success
•Ovarian Stimulation for IVF using GnRH Antagonists: Comparing the Agonist/Antagonist Conversion Protocol.(A/ACP) With the“Conventional” Antagonist Aproach
•Anti Mullerian Hormone (AMH) Measurement to Assess Ovarian Reserve and Design the Optimal Protocol for Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) in IVF.
•The “Biological Clock” and how it should Influence the Selection and Design of Ovarian Stimulation Protocols for IVF.
•Diagnosing and Treating Infertility due to Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR)
•Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) in Older women and Women who have Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR): A Rational Basis for Selecting a Stimulation Protocol
•Human Growth Hormone Administration in IVF: Does it Enhances Egg/Embryo Quality and Outcome?
•The BCP: Does Launching a Cycle of Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS). Coming off the BCP Compromise Response?
•Blastocyst Embryo Transfers Should be the Standard of Care in
•Why did my IVF Fail
•Frozen Embryo Transfer (FET): A Rational Approach to Hormonal Preparation and How new Methodology is Impacting IVF.
•Staggered IVF: An Excellent Option When. Advancing Age and Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR) Reduces IVF Success Rate
•Embryo Banking/Stockpiling: Slows the “Biological Clock” and offers a Selective Alternative to IVF-Egg Donation.
•IVF Failure and Implantation Dysfunction:
•The Role of Immunologic Implantation Dysfunction (IID) & Infertility (IID):PART 1-Background
•Immunologic Implantation Dysfunction (IID) & Infertility (IID):PART 2- Making a Diagnosis
•Immunologic Dysfunction (IID) & Infertility (IID):PART 3-Treatment
•Thyroid autoantibodies and Immunologic Implantation Dysfunction (IID)
•Immunologic Implantation Dysfunction: Importance of Meticulous Evaluation and Strategic Management:(Case Report
•Intralipid and IVIG therapy: Understanding the Basis for its use in the Treatment of Immunologic Implantation Dysfunction (IID)
•Natural Killer Cell Activation (NKa) and Immunologic Implantation Dysfunction in IVF: The Controversy!
•Endometrial Thickness, Uterine Pathology and Immunologic Factors
•Vaginally Administered Viagra is Often a Highly Effective Treatment to Help Thicken a Thin Uterine Lining
•Traveling for IVF from Out of State/Country–
•A personalized, stepwise approach to IVF
•How Many Embryos should be transferred: A Critical Decision in IVF.
•The Role of Nutritional Supplements in Preparing for IVF
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Geoff Sher
Bit of a sideways question, but would love your thoughts
Have you ever come across any interaction with epilepsy medications and PCOS?
I ask because all my clinicians and I are stumped as to how my PCOS appeared to have disappeared, along with all of my eggs – and then subsequently reappeared; and having read that some epilepsy medications can reverse some of the features of PCOS, wondered if it was anything you’d ever come across?
Oct 2010: diagnosed PCOS – age 28. AFC 42, AMH 28pmol/l, FSH 3 – go back on birth control pill
Oct 2014: diagnosed w/ epilepsy. Start Lamotrigine, and double dose of the bcp due to interactions between epilepsy meds & contraception
Jun 2015: come off pill and discover my AFC has plummeted to 5, FSH is 17.6 and AMH is 1.5pmol/l – age 33
Aug 2015: AMH repeated (different lab) – still 1.5pmol/l. FSH now 9.5
Sept 2015: IVF cycle #1: Baseline AFC 5. High stims of 450iu Gonal-F. 7 eggs, 6 mature, 4 fert, nothing made it to blast.
Oct 2015: AMH retest – still 1.5pmol/l
Jan 2016: IVF cycle #2: Baseline AFC: 10. High stims of 450iu Gonal-F. 17 eggs, all mature, 12 fert, 5 blasts, one transferred, achieve pregnancy, MMC @ 10w, karyotyping shows embryo was euploid
May 2016: bloodwork post pregnancy/miscarriage shows FSH has gone down to 5, LH is 23 (i.e. back to FSH:LH ratio of my PCOS days) and my AFC is now 20+ with a PCO appearance of my ovaries
IVF cycle #3: Baseline AFC: 20+. Low stims of 150iu Gonal-F, dropping to 75iu then coasting. 28 eggs, 22 mature, 19 fert, 9 blasts
So it seems it LOOKED as though I had severe DOR, but in fact it seems we are now seeing my true ovarian reserve. We plan to retest my AMH as I’m dying to know what it is now!
My AMH was retested multiple times at different labs so seems unlikely to have been a lab error. Could there have been some kind of an iatrogenic effect of the combination of the Lamotrigine and the double dose of the birth control pill having some kind of suppressive effect?
It’s purely a hypothesis, but a very curious case – I’d love to know what you thought!!
I know of no such effect. It could simply be that you were en route to develope diminished ovarian reserve. Now that you have this problem, you will need to be proactive and central to success is the protocol chosen for ovarian stimulation.
In my opinion, “microdose” (“flare”) Lupron protocols, the use of clomiphene or Letrozole, and high dosage Menopur protocols, should best not be used in women with DOR (see below). It surges LH and with it ovarian testosterone as the stimulation begins and this can have a deleterious effect on egg quality/competency…especially in older women and also in women such as yourself who have DOR. You need a modified, robust, long pituitary down-regulation protocol. I would use an agonist/antagonist conversion protocol with human growth hormone (HGH) augmentation and would recommend Staggered IVF with embryo banking of PGS (next generation gene sequencing)-normal blastocysts, to make hay while the sun still shines.
Please visit my new Blog at o to http://goo.gl/4hvjoP , find the “search bar” and type in the titles of any/all of the articles listed below, one by one. “Click” and you will immediately be taken to those you select. Please also take the time to post any questions or comments with the full expectation that I will (as always) respond promptly.
•Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) for IVF: Selecting the ideal protocol
•Ovarian Stimulation for IVF using GnRH Antagonists: Comparing the Agonist/Antagonist Conversion Protocol.(A/ACP) With the“Conventional” Antagonist Aproach
•IVF: Factors Affecting Egg/Embryo “competency” during Controlled Ovarian Stimulation(COS)
•Anti Mullerian Hormone (AMH) Measurement to Assess Ovarian Reserve and Design the Optimal Protocol for Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS) in IVF.
•The “Biological Clock” and how it should Influence the Selection and Design of Ovarian Stimulation Protocols for IVF.
•Diagnosing and Treating Infertility due to Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR)
•Human Growth Hormone Administration in IVF: Does it Enhances Egg/Embryo Quality and Outcome?
•The BCP: Does Launching a Cycle of Controlled Ovarian Stimulation (COS). Coming off the BCP Compromise Response?
•Frozen Embryo Transfer (FET): A Rational Approach to Hormonal Preparation and How new Methodology is Impacting IVF.
•Staggered IVF: An Excellent Option When. Advancing Age and Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR) Reduces IVF Success Rate
•Embryo Banking/Stockpiling: Slows the “Biological Clock” and offers a Selective Alternative to IVF-Egg Donation.
•Preimplantation Genetic Sampling (PGS) Using: Next Generation Gene Sequencing (NGS): Method of Choice.
•IVF Failure and Implantation Dysfunction: The Role of Endometrial Thickness, Uterine Pathology and Immunologic Factors
•Why did my IVF Fail
•Traveling for IVF from Out of State/Country–
•A personalized, stepwise approach to IVF
•How Many Embryos Should be Transferred: A Critical Decision in IVF.
•The Role of Nutritional Supplements in Preparing for IVF
•PCOS
I invite you to call 702-699-7437 or 800-780-7437 or go online on this site and set up a one hour Skype consultation with me to discuss your case in detail.
I also suggest that you access the 4th edition of my book ,”In Vitro Fertilization, the ART of Making Babies”. It is available as a down-load through http://www.Amazon.com or from most bookstores and public libraries.
Geoff Sher
I invite you to call 702-699-7437 or 800-780-7437 or go online on this site and set up a one hour Skype consultation with me to discuss your case in detail.
I also suggest that you access the 4th edition of my book ,”In Vitro Fertilization, the ART of Making Babies”. It is available as a down-load through http://www.Amazon.com or from most bookstores and public libraries.
Geoff Sher
Hi
My wife had a 5 embryos transferred on 2nd of may .. 1st blood test hcg was 684 2nd was 2000+ and 3rd was 26400. On 6th week done a ultrasound wherein it’s said that having twins with good heart beat. So need to know precautions and how many months needs to worry
This is somnething you need to discuss with your OB. The risk of miscarriage (early or late) is increased and so is the incidence of late poregnancy complications such as preeclampsia, diabetes, bleeding, premature labor, cesarean section, post-partum hemorrage.
Good luck!
Geoff Sher